Add advanced mode from Pro IDE

[szerwi]

Is your feature request related to a problem? Please describe.
Arduino Pro IDE introduced many advanced features like Git integration or completly new file explorer, which gave possibility to open other files than .ino (like .cpp or .h). Unfortunately, the advanced mode is not available in Arduino IDE 2.0.0 beta-3

Describe the solution you'd like
Do you plan to import advanced mode features from Pro IDE to IDE 2.0?

[ubidefeo]

@szerwi
this new IDE comes from the Pro IDE, which gave us a lot of insight into what works, what's problematic and what users want.
We think that for some users the explorer can be confusing, but it doesn't mean advanced users don't need it.
As we move forward with an application that can satisfy the beginners and be appealing to the advanced, we will introduce more paradigms and useful features.

I'd say keep an eye open for new enhancements and new tools to come :)

In the meantime you can trigger the explorer view on using the advanced preferences.
Right now these are at the bottom left, and you can search for "toggle explorer view".
Mind that if that messes up your layout we do not support it and this view might be removed in favour of something more Arduino-friendly.

Hope you'll enjoy Arduino IDE 2.0 🙏🏼

[szerwi]

@ubidefeo Thank you for the information. I also found there Git and other features from advanced mode ;) The only thing that I'm missing is closing tabs with .ino files. After enabling file explorer I can close tab with .h or .cpp file, but I can't close the tab with .ino file. Is that possible in IDE 2.0 the same as in Pro IDE, or not yet?

[kittaakos]

Unfortunately, the advanced mode is not available

You can access the Explorer view from the Command Palette.

• Press F1 or Ctrl/⌘+Shift+P,
• Use the Toggle Explorer View command: just type Toggle Explorer View and hit Enter (or Ctrl/⌘+Shift+E).

For the time being, you can create any file from a terminal. Open a terminal with Ctrl+` (or the Open New Terminal (In Active Workspace) command) and create a file with any filename and extension:

echo > filename.ext

You should be able to open the file from the Explorer view.

You can open the view for the Git integration with the Toggle Source Control View command (or Ctrl/⌘+Shift+G).

I hope this helps during the transition.

[kittaakos]

Is that possible in IDE 2.0 the same as in Pro IDE, or not yet?

It's not possible at the moment.

The only thing that I'm missing is closing tabs with .ino files. After enabling file explorer I can close tab with .h or .cpp file

You can close a tab only if it does not belong to the current sketch but you can any other files.

[szerwi]

@kittaakos Thank you for quick tutorial, I've already found that :)

I hope you won't abandon advanced features and you will keep upgrading them :)
Right now my sketch is built from multiple .ino files for better navigation and it is a bit annoying that I cannot close any of them, which was possible in Pro IDE.

[ubidefeo]

@szerwi
this IDE will not reintroduce things that have been removed in the transition from Pro IDE.
Like I said, these advanced hidden features might disappear in the future.
There will be other ways to get advanced features, and they will be announced in time :)

[idea--list]

@ubidefeo
Like I said, these advanced hidden features might disappear in the future.

I think this would be a fatal mistake. Even noobs are not dumb. Arduino project would only need to onboard poeple and telling them: hey until you do not feel comfortable, you should avoid the explorer and using any other files in a project than the starting .ino file (which is nothing just a renamed main.c). As soon as they explore the examples and try to write their own code they would really benefit from the explorer. I mean no one will just want to blink an LED after they explored the example. Chances are high they would want to mix blinking with some other functionalities. Why do not you just explain them in 1 tutorial that they could "externalize" each functionality to its own .h and .c files and just #include those in the .ino file as they need it.

It is really not as hard to explain all that even for a complete beginner that they could get their code organized and more easy to maintain (modify, debug, etc.) while telling them naturally they also can keep going on with a single monolithic .ino file if they prefer.

Exactly the lack of doing anything else than editing an .ino file was the main reason i rather learned Mbed OS right from the very beginning despite that has a much steeper learning curve. As boards released by Arduino do not contain just 8KB Flash anymore, sketches can contain more than 100 lines... and with the intention to remove "advanced feateres" you are just about to send Arduino IDE v2.0 back to the stone age where all arduino boards came with microscopic memory. In which case there was no point taking the effort to develop V2.0. As 1.8.13 is exactly what V2.0 is without the "advanced features".

[szerwi]

@idea--list I totally agree with you. Arduino IDE should implement more and more advanced features, so there will be no need to migrate from Arduino IDE to VS Code + PlatformIO or any other alternative IDEs

[ubidefeo]

@idea--list
you can create .c and .h files in this new IDE, if that is your main concern.
We do it all the time, and it's very much needed by developers of libraries, so a better "explorer" view will come, we just want to make it our way.

The removal of an "advanced" switch doesn't mean we do not plan on catering advance users/features.
We just realised that exposing a whole set of features without giving it our touch wouldn't be different from just using VS Code.

I hope you'll want to wait for us to slowly introduce more advanced tools yet making them friendly.
I will not reveal our roadmap, but there' s a lot of stuff cooking and we want to make sure we gather feedback as we go.
Implementing all of it for the first public beta would have pushed this product release date to 2023 😬

In the meantime, please, feel free to report bugs or malfunctioning into this repo.
I appreciate you taking the time to write detailed comments 🙌🏼

ciao.ubi

[Hutkikz]

I really liked the latest version of the Pro IDE enough that I switched to it full time.
Then yesterday I try the new 2.0 and was disappointed to find no advanced mode. Boo.
Then I find a link to this thread telling how to get those features back. Yeah!!
Only to also read you plan to remove this too. WHY???

Not EVERYTHING has to be different from VScode these features are now hidden enough from the newb's.
This feels like your teasing us with candy then intend to take it away. to be replaced (maybe) at some unspecified future time.

[kevindawson]

@kittaakos
Command Palette. F1 Cool

• Toggle Explorer View -> Ctrl/⌘+Shift+E
• Toggle Plugins View -> Ctrl/⌘+Shift+L
• Toggle Outline View -> Not defined?

Q, how do you enable them as default as there state is not retained, over an IDE restart

other wise this is cool ;)

[kittaakos]

• Toggle Outline View -> Not defined?

Ctrl/⌘+Shift+I

as there state is not retained, over an IDE restart

The entire layout, including the opened views, is saved and restored between sessions. This works per sketch. If you open a new sketch, you start with the default layout. Currently, there is no way to change the default layout when opening a new sketch.

[kevindawson]

@kittaakos

I think you mean
Ctrl/⌘+Shift+I -> Explorer view

no key-bindings

• Toggle Outline View -> Not defined?