coder/code-server vs nuclide vs vscode-server #5783
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Hey Guys, Need some help, feeling outdated :) I used to work at FB a long time ago and previously used Nuclide for remote dev. Now i have a startup and dealing with algorithms and code bases which can't be downloaded outside of our dev servers. We've been using Nuclide for remote dev for the past few years even though it's deprecated. One thing i noticed about vscode remote ssh extension, when trying it today, it has the download option of files or folders.
Thanks for the guidance guys 👍 |
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Well I ain't a coding expert, I am just 14 years but I could help you on some tidbits.
afaik code-server is built from ground up to be lightweight, easy to deploy and secure. I mean, the password you get after installing is a hash code by Argon2. So it is pretty secure :)
If I am not wrong, we had a request or bug or discussion on this. I think you have to check user settings
Since code-server is made by Coder, they can(eff it, they did) integrate it into their Coder product. It is developer workspaces, but simplified. So, yeah. If the dev server is powerful, you can install Debian and set up CoderOSS on it(make sure you install Terraform separately) and provision users and admins. It would be with close-to-limited access, the public URL changes on each restart, but if you get a domain, you could redirect login there.
Well idk but @jsjoeio might know. If I am not wrong, it could be just port 8080.
code-server is purely open-sourced, with a huge and diverse community(in terms of the people as well as the tech they use) and a tad unofficial. That's why you can't easily hit a VSCode extension; you should use OpenVSX or the new marketplace here. But this is more lightweight. As I said above, code-server is more lightweight, and on top of that, a bit isolated - it installs into .local on my Pop!_ OS 22.04 instance. I tried vscode-server back in my Zorin days(a few months ago) and that thing was basically crap. It used the name code-server and would fail to start half the time. Serious limitations that ain't over here.
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No worries :) this makes me feel liberated from my real life tbh. I'm happy to have helped you! PS: for in-depth answers, @jsjoeio could help out. I could be wrong here and there since I am here since perhaps a year, and I am not well-versed with coding, I just told all that from my experience. If you need better answers/explanations, the maintainers could give the best answers |
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Great question! Thinking out loud here...so there's HTTP/HTTPS, a couple WSS connections and I think that's it...For ports, default is 8080 for running it but not sure about other ports 🤔 @code-asher |
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Also @im-coder-lg you are so awesome for writing such a long thru response! Thank you! |
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No worries! That was refreshing after a day of torture from the bozos at school! I hope the answers were correct though. |
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Great answers.
I am also not familiar with Nuclide but I can say security-wise code-server has the basics you would expect of most websites. Cookie-based token authentication, CSP, rate limiting (although I believe rate limiting is unfortunately missing on some endpoints). In Coder we disable the built-in authentication and run an authentication wrapper around it that supports oauth. code-server is basically a remote shell so once you are in you can do anything on the machine the user has permissions to do. The way to do multi-tenancy would be to spawn a code-server using each separate user or do some sort of Docker/Kubernetes setup and give each user their own container. Sounds like the jailed home thing you have going on would be perfect. There is also a built-in proxy which currently cannot be disabled. It can be used by authenticated users to access any port on the machine by visiting the
If I recall correctly you can pass
Can confirm that code-server only uses one port at the moment (8080 by default as noted). It can also be ran on a socket which may be preferable in a multi-user environment. As noted currently the only protocol in use is HTTP/S. There is some talk about supporting arbitrary protocols for the proxy (for example to proxy Postgres). This would run on a separate port. #5723
Both code-server and vscode-server wrap OSS Code but as noted vscode-server is able to use proprietary bits that code-server cannot and code-server has a set of patches to Code that allow self-hosting the server as well as a few bug fixes that have not been upstreamed yet. Those differences can all be seen here in the patch descriptions: https://github.com/coder/code-server/tree/main/patches As far as the wrappers go I would say the main differences are that we add a different implementation of token-based authentication, the proxy, a /healthz endpoint, and a few deprecated extras like |
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Well I ain't a coding expert, I am just 14 years but I could help you on some tidbits.
afaik code-server is built from ground up to be lightweight, easy to deploy and secure. I mean, the password you get after installing is a hash code by Argon2. So it is pretty secure :)
Tbh I have never used Nuclide, but this does my job to a satisfactory level.
If I am not wrong, we had a request or bug or discussion on this. I think you have to check user settings